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  1. That's a really good question. Some thoughts (generic and specific): Enthusiasm: First and foremost a thank you for your continued enthusiasm - it shines through. Quick answers to what must seem like dull questions help people keep momentum. KISS: The simpler the better. I think that the Arduino and Raspberry Pi models are great examples. A small amount of cash and a couple of button clicks and anyone from a child to an adult can get results. I think that it's the hard work that goes into making the first few steps as simple as possible which make all the difference. To that end, I think that time spent making this as accessible as possible is time well spent. For Linux, the closer you (and Xilinx) could get to using packages to install this software the better. Even having 32 and 64 bit versions would be helpful. The Quickstart guide can never be too simple but it must be absolutely correct. At the moment it leads people in the wrong direction. Even the filing system structure changes which seem to have happened after the tutorials were written caused me confusion. This is why the Intro to Spartan FPGA ebook is very good - step by step and absolutely no assumed knowledge. Signposting: I'd like to be lead by the hand through this a bit more - big picture stuff. Having finished the ebook, I still have little idea, and am totally intimidated, by the Xilinx ISE (not your fault, I know). Where next? I really like the idea of ZAP IDE and the schematic stuff (I've just installed this) but where do I find out about the programming side of ZPUino? The more simple examples - with walk/talk throughs the better. ZAP IDE: I don't quite understand how the ZAPIDE and the Xilinx IDE are going to work together? I assume that the bootloading step is a shortcut to uploading a bit file which in the future I'll end up doing from within the Xilinx environment. I think I'd rather press a button which toggles me into Xilinx if that's what I'll be doing in the future - I won't always have a link to help me. I was slightly confused by the way the examples were organised (probably as a result of the quickstart guide) - it took me a while to figure out which of the Papilio Schematic Library, basics or the ZPUino ones were best to start with. Basically, I'm super impressed with what you're doing, where you're going, think you're up against a complexity problem caused by Xilinx and that any guides should be super simple and super accurate to allow dull people like me to follow in your wake. If I can help - just ask. Stu
  2. Jack - success, thank you - after some fiddling. It took a download of a 32 bit libftdi to get the boot loader to work. Then it was just to recognise that the serial port dropped out (needing re-asignment in the Tools menu) before uploading the file. After that I'm now the proud owner of a monitor showing multicoloured Hello Worlds. After all that shock and awe, I'm off for a little lie down. Stu
  3. Thanks Jack - still having a few teething problems. New version installed - including copying in the 64bit rxtx files. Following the quickstart guide for ZPUino gets as far as burning the bootloader which just comes up with 'Error while burning bootloader.' in the orange bar (no other output is visible). I've tried swapping between the serial ports to confirm I'd not got the wrong one - but it made no difference. As your comment in the revision.txt said that AVR8 was now working I tried that as well. It failed once because of a lack of a 'libsrecord(0)' (from memory) which I've now installed, but only get as far as: Running cp script + echo Running cp script + cp -R /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bitstreams /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bscan_spi.bit /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bscan_spi_lx9.bit /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bscan_spi_xc3s100e.bit /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bscan_spi_xc3s250e.bit /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/bscan_spi_xc3s500e.bit /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/butterfly_prog.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cp /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cp.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cygattr-1.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cyggcc_s-1.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cygiconv-2.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cygintl-8.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cygsigsegv-2.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/cygwin1.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/data2mem /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/data2mem.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/devlist.txt /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/ftd2xx.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/ftd2xx.lib /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/gawk /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/gawk.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/Impactout.cmd /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/inpout32.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/jtag_0_9_1415.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/libsrecord.so.0 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/license.txt /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/lin32 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/Makefile /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/MANUFACTURERS /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/Microsoft.VC80.CRT /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/msys-1.0.dll /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio_loader /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio-prog /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio-prog.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/README /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/reset.svf /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/sh.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/srec_cat /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/srec_cat.exe /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/STD_1149_1_1990 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/STD_1149_1_1994 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/STD_1149_1_2001 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/STD_1532_2001 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/STD_1532_2002 /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/xc3s250e_vq100.bsd /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/xc3s500e_vq100.bsd /tmp/build4897060346801689254.tmp Executing /home/stu/Downloads/zap-ide/hardware/tools/avr/bin/avr-size -A /tmp/build4897060346801689254.tmp/Papilio_QuickStart.cpp.hex Binary sketch size: 3,076 bytes (of a 16,384 byte maximum) - 18% used make: Entering directory `/tmp/build4897060346801689254.tmp' Converting Intel hex file to Verilog Mem format: ./srec_cat Papilio_QuickStart.cpp.hex -Intel -Byte_Swap 2 -Data_Only -o tmp.mem -vmem 8 srec_cat: the standard input may only be named once on the command line make: *** [hex] Error 1 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/build4897060346801689254.tmp' processing.app.debug.RunnerException: the selected serial port make: Leaving directory `/tmp/build4897060346801689254.tmp' does not exist or your board is not connected at processing.app.debug.BasicUploader.uploadUsingPreferences(BasicUploader.java:159) at processing.app.Sketch.upload(Sketch.java:1678) at processing.app.Sketch.exportApplet(Sketch.java:1620) at processing.app.Sketch.exportApplet(Sketch.java:1592) at processing.app.Editor$DefaultExportHandler.run(Editor.java:2607) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744) Again I tried both possible USB options. I also booted up Xilinx and papilio-prog'd a bit file which worked correctly. Sorry that this wasn't better news and that I ran out of knowledge well before the point of being useful. Stu
  4. Jack, Success thank you. I can now launch ZAP IDE. However, in following your quickstart guide (having already sorted some linux permissions stuff) I get the following errors when I get to the 'Burn Bootloader' stage. /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio_loader/bin/papilio-prog.exe: 1: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio_loader/bin/papilio-prog.exe: MZ@: not found/home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio_loader/bin/papilio-prog.exe: 2: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/hardware/tools/papilio/papilio_loader/bin/papilio-prog.exe: Syntax error: ")" unexpectedAny thoughts? Stu
  5. I'm a Noob with a Papilio Pro, LogicStart MegaWing and have had some success and great fun following the Intro to Spartan FPGA book - so thank you. I'd like to have a go with ZAP IDE / ZPUino but I'm falling at the first hurdle - getting the IDE running on Linux - specifically Ubuntu 13.10 It seems that I'm attempting to use 32bit code on my 64bit architecture. stu@glenmoray:~/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide$ sudo ./zap[sudo] password for stu:Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 14: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: You have loaded library /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/lib/librxtxSerial.so which might have disabled stack guard. The VM will try to fix the stack guard now.It's highly recommended that you fix the library with 'execstack -c <libfile>', or link it with '-z noexecstack'.java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/lib/librxtxSerial.so: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/lib/librxtxSerial.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch) thrown while loading gnu.io.RXTXCommDriverException in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/lib/librxtxSerial.so: /home/stu/Downloads/papilio-zap-ide/lib/librxtxSerial.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch) at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary1(ClassLoader.java:1965) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(ClassLoader.java:1890) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(ClassLoader.java:1880)Recognising this, if I'm correct, and having the knowledge to do something about it are different things for me (and I suspect other beginners). Previous posts about Ubuntu 13.04 have suggested: sudo apt-get install ia32-libsbut this doesn't work on Ubuntu 13.10. Could anyone help me get over the hurdle of installing the simple IDE for the simple Soft processor - feeling very thick. Stu