Jarrod Roberson

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  1. Jarrod Roberson

    Papilio Pro Beginner Tips

    I don't want "drag and drop" FPGA design, I want effortless loading of the .bit files onto the dev board. I am not concerned with ISE, I was solely commenting on the deployment to the Papilio dev board. I think they are on the right track making it simplier to deploy to the board. Just like the Arduino makes loading the code onto the board a non-issue. It doesn't making writing the code or knowing what to write any simpler, but it removes the manual process that was involved with physically programming the microcontroller. I specialize in process optimization and automation. I think deploying code should be unattended automation. I have been doing development since 1983, I have no delusions about FPGA development. I think the process of getting the design onto the dev board/chip should be "effortless", just like every other tool that makes deployment effortless. I shouldn't have to memorize command line flags and /dev device ids and all that minutia to get something running on a piece of hardware. Deploying stuff under windows isn't as smooth as it could be, but it at least works, same stuff on OSX just didn't work. That is disappointing.
  2. Jarrod Roberson

    Papilio Pro Beginner Tips

    I really like the hardware, it is a nice development kit. I was not referring to the Xilinx ISE software as a disappointment, that is just a fact of life, I knew about its limitations. Of course the ISE software isn't native OSX. Never expected it to. Using it on a Windows VM isn't a problem, but it would once that is done I don't want to bother with Windows anymore. Dealing with USB connectivity between host and VM is a complete PITA! I was referring to being disappointed with the Papilio specific software loader and what not, that just doesn't work on OSX. Download it follow the vague instructions and you get mysterious errors. Installer is out of date and just doesn't work, and doesn't give useful reason why. But if you have a native linux application, it should work on any other Unix as well. And yes OSX has been an official Unix since Leopard for like 9 years. Dismissing OSX as being used by ignorant "artsy fartsy" people means you don't really know who uses them today or why they are have historically been used for high complexity applications like graphics and video and audio. Personally I would look at using something like FuSE and enabling a "drag and drop" interface that "just worked". I want to focus on getting my project done, not building tools that I need to can get my project done.
  3. Jarrod Roberson

    Papilio Pro Beginner Tips

    Really sad to see that OSX is such a second class citizen, there are not clear instructions or working applications to work with this board in OSX.
  4. Jarrod Roberson

    Papilio Loader GUI

    I can't get it work on OSX 10.8.5, it installs but I get the following error. Quickstart-Papilio_Pro_LX9-v1.5.bit Could not access USB device 0403:6010. If this is linux then use sudo.
  5. Jarrod Roberson

    How to load .bit files with OSX 10.8.5

    I tried the GUI and I tried the command line. I get the same error both places. ./papilio-prog -f ~/Downloads/Quickstart-Papilio_Pro_LX9-v1.5.bit Could not access USB device 0403:6010. If this is linux then use sudo. I just got my Papilio Pro, what am I missing here?